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Assault on Quảng Trị, 11 July 1972

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Post by OTB Mon Jul 12, 2021 2:37 am

The South counter-attacks! AAR soon...

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Post by FlyinSquirrel Mon Jul 12, 2021 4:59 am

Looking forward to it OTB. Didn't take long for those new ARVN to take the field.


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Post by Garryowen Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:07 am

I'm looking forward to it too. The photos look great. I love the rubble and those sandbags!! Maybe I have seen the sandbags before and forgot them. They look like you  made them from scratch. I say that based primarily on the gap between the bags that are a bit behind the POW.

Beautiful.

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Post by OTB Sun Jul 25, 2021 12:16 am

Thanks guys! Yes Tom, I made the bunkers from scratch. I found a couple of plastic bases from broken toys in a charity store and immediately knew what I was going to do with them.


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Post by OTB Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:53 am

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Here's the AAR: it was a long, hard-fought game:

http://www.venetic.co/VietnamQuangTri.html


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Post by Garryowen Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:09 am

I will read the AAR in just a minute, but back to the sandbags.

So you got must the bases in the charity store and made the sandbags from scratch?

How, or what with, did you make them? 

I have always stayed away from making sandbags from scratch as I thought it would take forever.

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Post by Garryowen Sun Jul 25, 2021 11:32 am

Fabulous AAR yet again, OTB. Your AARs are as exciting as watching first class war movie. Your camera angles are great. Maybe you should start writing film scripts and directing movies. 

Actually, you need to find a producer who wants to make a war movie. Then you run a wargame of it. Your AAR becomes the screen play.

Visually, your games are so creative. That Chieu Hoi camp was a great idea and the execution was superb. The city gate was great too. I love your explosions with a bit of black and sometimes red as well.

You're the man!!

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Post by OTB Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:01 pm

Garryowen wrote:I will read the AAR in just a minute, but back to the sandbags.

So you got must the bases in the charity store and made the sandbags from scratch?

How, or what with, did you make them? 

I have always stayed away from making sandbags from scratch as I thought it would take forever.

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I used modelling clay - one of those little sealed bags you can buy at the craft shop. Roll it out, flatten it, then cut it up using a scalpel. It's quite messy as you need to add water to keep it moist and the gunk gets all over your hands. Gloves are useless too. And yes, it does take forever. Assault on Quảng Trị, 11 July 1972 2192359149


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Post by OTB Sun Jul 25, 2021 5:08 pm

Garryowen wrote:Fabulous AAR yet again, OTB. Your AARs are as exciting as watching first class war movie. Your camera angles are great. Maybe you should start writing film scripts and directing movies. 

Actually, you need to find a producer who wants to make a war movie. Then you run a wargame of it. Your AAR becomes the screen play.

Visually, your games are so creative. That Chieu Hoi camp was a great idea and the execution was superb. The city gate was great too. I love your explosions with a bit of black and sometimes red as well.

You're the man!!

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Thanks Tom! That would be a big-budget film - 180 extras, four tanks, 2 helicopters. And I'm not sure the Vietnamese Government would let us build a Chieu Hoi Camp (unless it was to show the NVA turning up and handing out guns to the prisoners)... let alone have a historical battle outcome. It would probably have to be filmed in Thailand Assault on Quảng Trị, 11 July 1972 2060822119

I harbour dreams of the novel I am doing being filmed. I think it would make a good film.


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Post by Garryowen Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:26 am

Thanks for the reply re the sandbags. I don't think I am quite ready to jump in to that. 

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Post by OTB Mon Jul 26, 2021 5:53 am

Coincidentally, I am making some gun pits for my 105 mm howitzers for the next scenario, and it's got to that point of me going "No, not more sandbags!" I'm trying to think of a way of doing gun pits without them...


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Post by Garryowen Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:13 am

I have seen photos of WWI trenches with a row of sandbags on top that were made from fresh beans. They actually looked pretty good. There are lots of species(?) of beans. Not all beans are created equal when it comes to replicating sandbags. 

I scouted around at a couple of stores and settled on navy beans. They are not a perfect shape and the real problem is that they don't sag or droop. But they did look pretty good in a single row on top of the trenches.

I have not tried them yet myself.

Here is a photo of what I have:

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Post by OTB Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:14 am

I would be worried about rodents getting into my wargaming stuff... Surprised


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Post by Garryowen Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:22 am

If you don't need too many (a crazy thing to say to you),  Laughing Grubby Tanks makes a pretty nice one in the old Britannia range. 

https://www.grubbytanks.com/product/britannia-miniatures/20mm-vietnam-conflict/us-fire-support-base/105mm-artillery-position/

That link has no photo. But here is one of mineAssault on Quảng Trị, 11 July 1972 2013_010
The roof comes off. Shipping may be cost prohibitive from the UK.

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Post by OTB Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:26 am

They're very nice.


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